Exploring Jung: Astrology Podcast

I participated in a wonderful conversation on the podcast Exploring Astrology with Adam Sommer, where we spoke about C.G. Jung’s natal chart, his transits during his Red Book period, and several other astrological topics.

The podcast is available for download or can be listened here: Exploring Jung with Becca Tarnas.

Jung Mandala

4 Replies to “Exploring Jung: Astrology Podcast”

  1. Becca – I’m just a person who encountered your blog due to its unusual juxtaposition of the fantasy fiction genre with Hillman’s concept of active imagination. I just came across a book by Henry Corbin titled ‘Alone with the Alone : Creative Imagination in the Sufism of Ibn Arabi’ that might be of interest to you. Thought I’d mention it in case you’d want to stir some 13th-century Sufi philosophy into your cauldron.

    from somebody’s Amazon review:
    This is an important study of imagination in Ibn Arabi by a significant philosopher-Orientalist. Corbin differentiates imagination from mere “fantasy,” an “exercise of thought without foundation in nature.” Thus what he has in mind when speaking of imagination is quite different from what we usually associate with the term. Cosmic Imagination is the creative power that gives birth to the sensory world: God imagines the cosmos and brings it into being. Imagining is a creative act which at the Divine level is a form of genesis where God draws out existence from Himself. This view stands in contrast to creation ex nihilo, a theological view partly responsible, in Corbin’s view, for the degeneration of imagination into fantasy.

    1. Thank you so much for this! Corbin has definitely been an influence on my thinking and my understanding of the imaginal realm. I especially appreciate his differentiation of “imaginal” from “imaginary.” I’m currently reading Tom Cheetham’s book “Imaginal Love: The Meanings of Imagination in Henry Corbin and James Hillman” which is a great secondary view on their perspectives. Thank you again for the recommendation!

  2. On Jung not being a prophet, I just wanted to point out this dialogue between him and his soul:

    Soul: You should listen: to no longer be a Christian is easy. But
    what next? For more is yet to come. Everything is waiting for
    you. And you? You remain silent and have nothing to say. But
    you should speak. Why have you received the revelation? You
    should not hide it. You concern yourself with the form? Is the
    form important, when it is a matter of revelation?
    Jung: But you are not thinking that I should publish what I have
    written [Liber Novus]? That would be a misfortune. And who
    would understand it?
    Soul: No, listen! … your calling comes first.
    Jung: But what is my calling?
    Soul: The new religion and its proclamation.
    Jung: Oh God, how should I do this?
    Soul: Do not be of such little faith. No one knows it as you do.
    There is no one who could say it as well as you could.
    Jung: But who knows, if you are not lying?
    Soul: Ask yourself if I am lying. I speak the truth.
    Three days later, his soul explains further:
    “You know everything that is to be known about the manifested
    revelation, but you do not yet live everything that is to be lived at
    this time…. The way is symbolic.”
    He knows everything to be known about the revelation. Now he has
    to live it. The way is symbolic.
    It appears Jung is confronting not just the “revelation” but also the
    fact of himself, a modern man, being the “revelator.” How could he live
    that peculiar fact “at this time”? He faces not only the hermeneutics of a
    vision, but of himself as hermeneut.

    Click to access Hermeneutics-of-Vision.pdf

    Is this not Jung prophesizing the coming of a new aion?

    1. I agree that this profound conversation Jung had with his soul is indeed prophetic, and I am certainly in no way denying that. It is a remarkable dialogue and certainly significant. Yet the choice Jung made of how to communicate what he knew took a different form than declaring himself a prophet of the new age—something that Sonu Shamdasani, James Hillman, and others have pointed out about Jung. I believe that is part of why Jung was able to reach so many people with his work. He walked such a fine line between the mystical experiences he had undergone and the cultural milieu of the modern world in which he found himself. Some scholars feel he went too far in a mystical direction while others feel he did not go far enough. I do not believe I could say whether or not Jung is a prophet, but rather what I find interesting is how he chose to present himself.

      Thank you for sharing this remarkable passage!

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